Wednesday, January 6, 2010

Hazon Shechita debate - 2nd ltr sent

Hazon Shechita debate - 2nd ltr sent
... to The Jew and the Carrot blog-piece The Debate: Eating Meat (or not) at the Hazon Food Conference


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[USA] Hazon Shechita debate continues

Peter wrote:
"Others, living in a dream world, will claim that baby
steps toward meaningless goals will do the trick."

Actually, this person living in the real world does assert that INCREMENTAL steps toward MEANINGFUL goals will CERTAINLY do the trick.
And such steps can become more persistently effective over the long-term than going Cold Turkey.

In order to enlighten you readers, here are a pair of extreme cases of going Cold Turkey:

1. The extremely severe withdrawal symptoms resulting from going Cold Turkey on psychoactive drug benzodiazepine.
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* Convulsions, which may result in death
* Catatonia, which may result in death
* Coma
* Suicide
* Attempted suicide
* Suicidal ideation
* Self harm
* Hyperthermia
* Delusions
* Homicidal ideation
* Urges to shout, throw, break things or to harm someone
* Violence
* Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
* Organic brain syndrome
* Psychosis
* Confusion
* Mania
* Neuroleptic malignant syndrome like event
* Delirium tremens
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(from 'Benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome' Wikipedia found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome )

2. The less severe but much more easily-found withdrawal symptoms resulting from going Cold Turkey on alcohol.
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* Agitation
* Alcoholic hallucinosis
* Anorexia
* Anxiety and panic attacks
* Catatonia
* Confusion
* Delirium tremens
* Depression
* Derealization
* Diaphoresis
* Diarrhea
* Euphoria
* Fear
* Gastrointestinal upset
* Hallucinations
* Headache
* Hypertension
* Insomnia
* Irritability
* Nausea and vomiting
* Palpitations
* Psychosis
* Rebound REM sleep
* Restlessness
* Seizures and death
* Sweating
* Tachycardia
* Tremors
* Weakness
* Hyperthermia(fever)
--- end quote ---
(from 'Alcohol withdrawal syndrome' Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome)

A long shocklist list of dangers no doubt.
Naturally, the sudden Cold Turkey halting of a carnivous kosher diet will NEVER or rarely cause such withdrawal symptoms as are described here.

My point through all these is that a more GRADUAL reduction in eating meat can be just as effective, if not more so, in reducing our meat-eating habits than is going Cold Turkey.
In this light, I commend Hazon's commitment to reduce comsumption of meat by 50% by 2015 and reject Peter's assertions and challenges condemning such efforts.

Ahd Kahn Leshono.

Hazon Shechita debate - 1st ltr sent

Hazon Shechita debate - 1st ltr sent
... to The Jew and the Carrot blog-piece The Debate: Eating Meat (or not) at the Hazon Food Conference


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[USA] Hazon Shechita debate continues

Pete Cohon wrote on December 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
"On behalf of the 800 members of VeggieJews, please be advised that Richard Schwartz does not speak on behalf of the entire Jewish vegetarian community. While he may think that Hazon's commitment to reduce comsumption of meat by 50% by 2015 is a Kiddush HaShem, we believe that it is nothing but an illusion rather like saying that child abuse or spousal abuse should be cut in half by 2015."

As a current member of VeggieJews (before Peter or another moderator should kick me off or somehow "dissuade" me from remaining), please be advised that Richard Schwartz DOES partially speak for this member of the Jewish vegetarian community and that I must disagree with Peter's multiple statements as expressed above. Oh, I believe that I DO understand Peter's statements. Additionally, I believe that Shmuel's and Richard Schwartz's above comments concerning this thread should CERTAINLY not be skimmed over or just ignored completely. While Peter may think that Hazon's commitment to reduce comsumption of meat by 50% by 2015 is anything BUT a Kiddush HaShem, I would believe otherwise.

I'd like to equate here the continual craving to eat meat as a type of "addiction" so-to-speak.. Gradual REDUCTIONS in eating meat -- similar to gradual reductions in abuse of many types of addictive substances -- are MUCH more effective than going Cold Turkey, if you readers will pardon this particular non-vegetarian expression ;-)

There is a Wikipedia on this "Cold Turkey" expression at webpage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_turkey

It is now just after New Year's Day 2010, and many of our secular Jewish brothers and sisters are acting upon their New Year's resolutions to lose weight and be in better physical shape for the upcoming year. Improvements in diet and increasing regular physical exercise are, of course, the primary means of carrying this out, as nutritionists and other health professionals can certainly attest to. And keeping a completely vegetarian diet certainly is ONE major way, among other ways, to improve one's diet. OTOH, those who go too far and all of a sudden completely avoid ALL food, such persons will no doubt suffer negative health effects from their continuous, uninterrupted fastings (e.g., anorexia nervosa and/or increasingly compromised immune systems). We all realize that nervous-system collapse and death are the eventual and extreme results of such Cold Turkey starvation weight-loss tactics.

Sunday, December 6, 2009

Shmuel Rosner -specific Material

Shmuel Rosner -specific Material


Sample of sources of Israel in the Media

A selective sources' sampling of Israel's representation in the Media

12/6/2009 Cache event-listing

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Cached Event Information from December 4th, 2009
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1. From the Congregation Beth Israel of Berkeley Weekly Schedule
CONGREGAT I O N B E T H I S R A E L P R E S E N T S
ISRAEL EDUCATION SERIES
Co-sponsors: ADL, Bridges To Israel, Congregation Beth El,Congregation Netivot Shalom, Israel Consulate, JCRC.
Shmuel Rosner
“ISRAEL, THE US AND IRAN:Can two friends find common groundagainst a dangerous foe?”

Shmuel Rosner, formerly the Chief US Correspondent for Israel's Ha'aretz newspaper andthe writer of the influential blog Rosner’s Domain, now writes daily for the Jerusalem Post, andpublishes a weekly column in Israel's Ma’ariv. “Israel’s leading blogger” (he won the 2009Boris Smolar Award for excellence in Journalism) is also a regular contributor to The NewRepublic, Commentary, and the online magazines Slate and Jewcy.He joins us from Israel for a thought-provoking talk, followed by questions and answers fromthe floor, exploring the most pressing issue facing Israel, and arguably, the Middle East.

Sunday, December 6th, 2009
7:00 PM
Venue: Congregation Beth Israel
CONGREGATION BETH ISRAEL1630 Bancroft Way, Berkeley, CA 94703
Congregation Office: (510) 843-5246
contact@cbiberkeley.org | http://www.cbiberkeley.org

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2. From the Congregation Beth Israel of Berkeley Announce-List mailing

CONGREGAT I O N B E T H I S R A E L

ISRAEL EDUCATION SERIES

Co-sponsors: ADL, Bridges To Israel, Congregation Beth El,

Congregation Netivot Shalom, Israel Consulate, JCRC.

Shmuel Rosner

“ISRAEL, THE US AND IRAN:

Can two friends find common ground

against a dangerous foe?”

Shmuel Rosner, formerly the Chief US Correspondent for Israel's Ha'aretz newspaper and

the writer of the influential blog Rosner’s Domain, now writes daily for the Jerusalem Post, and

publishes a weekly column in Israel's Ma’ariv. “Israel’s leading blogger” (he won the 2009

Boris Smolar Award for excellence in Journalism) is also a regular contributor to The New

Republic, Commentary, and the online magazines Slate and Jewcy.

He joins us from Israel for a thought-provoking talk, followed by questions and answers from

the floor, exploring the most pressing issue facing Israel, and arguably, the Middle East.

Sunday, December 6th, 2009

7:00 PM

Venue: Congregation Beth Israel

CONGREGATION BETH ISRAEL

1630 Bancroft Way, Berkeley, CA 94703

Congregation Office: (510) 843-5246

contact@cbiberkeley.org | http://www.cbiberkeley.org


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3. From the J-Weekly Calendar found at http://www.jweekly.com/article/category/13/calendar/

“Israel, the U.S. and Iran: Can Two Friends Find Common Ground Against a Dangerous Foe?” With Shmuel Rosner. At Congregation Beth Israel, 1630 Bancroft Way, Berkeley. 7 p.m. Also Dec. 9 at 4:30 p.m. at S.F.-based Jewish Community Federation Library, 121 Steuart St., S.F. http://www.jcrc.org.
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4. From the Bay Area Jewish Community Relations Council's calendar of current events , http://www.jcrc.org/calendar_currentevents.htm

"Israel, the U.S. and Iran: Can Two Friends Find Common Ground Against a Dangerous Foe?" with Shmuel Rosner
Sunday, December 6, 2009
7:00 - 9:00 pm

Congregation Beth Israel, Berkeley
More info: jbernstein@jcrc.org /415.977.7434


In Conversation with Shmuel Rosner
Monday, December 7, 2009
Time TBA

The Doe-Moffitt Library Judaica Collection, UC Berkeley
More info: phamburg@library.berkeley.edu / 510.643.3353


"Israel, the U.S. and Iran: Can Two Friends Find Common Ground Against a Dangerous Foe?" with Shmuel Rosner
Tuesday, December 8, 2009
4:30 pm - 6:00 pm

Jewish Community Federation Boardroom
121 Steuart Street, San Francisco
More info or to RSVP: jbernstein@jcrc.org / 415.977.7434

International Good Cop/Bad Cop Strategies ?

Two "official" references for the Good Cop/Bad Cop social-approach
1. The 'Good cop/bad cop' Wikipedia found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop
2. The wiseGEEK 'What is Good Cop, Bad Cop?' found at http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-good-cop-bad-cop.htm

On the individual or personal level

The Good Cop
- Consistently approaches you with Warmth
- Consistently communicates with you
- Engages you
- Is fairly straightforward with you; readily acknowledges whether or not he/she has significant decision-making ability

The Bad Cop
- Consistently attempts to
demand unquestioning respect from you for whatever he or she carries out
- Consistently attempts to
avoid communicating with you except where this is not possible
- Ignores/ostracizes you
- When confronted, tries to put you in your place with threats/accusations, shouting you down, getting angry, putting on a nasty face, ... etcetera

I know a number of "Good Cop and "Bad Cop" individuals even within the local Berkeley Jewish Community.

How does Good Cop/Bad Cop translate itself into the much larger scale in the World Forum(s) when other nations approach Israel with attempts to extract concessions??

Is this, in effect, some weakly-effective International Strategy??

When and how will this Strategy backfire??